http://imgur.com/avPKWYZ, His face has changed! Check it out here: The first 15 minutes of Episode Gladio reveals a loading screen stating that the Rock of Ravatogh is where Ifrit died fighting back the Hexatheon http://imgur.com/SBsSaCu Clearly, it is poisonous to Astrals, too. Ifrit’s statue is perched at the beginning of the room, looking down the the hall that leads to the Door of the Underworld. This room is after the whirlpool, Ifrit is under the water and must get to the surface. You can see Eos’s statue clearly at just one point while in this room. At some point, Bahamut mustâve stolen the Crystal from him. Another thing to notice here is if you follow the statue of Ifrit’s gaze, you can see the statue of Eos far below. The perspective of Noctis in this maze adds depth of space & time. The red Glowing Wall Guards are literally daemons he has to fight. Eos’ soul is in the crystal. What Ifrit sees before him, is not what he was expecting...there is something horribly wrong with Eos. Let us stress here that Pitioss is NOT where these events actually occurred. At some point, Bahamut must’ve stolen the Crystal from him. Once Noctis hits this switch he says “This’ll work”! Paying attention to even the smallest of details in Pitioss truly opened the story to us in a completely new way. For thousands of years, Rubies was considered the stone of love. There comes a point in this room where the player is forced to react quickly or be hurt by spikes. All of the imagery is there, it is nearly impossible to dispute in at least some of the areas…but it wasn’t enough, there were still pieces missing to this puzzle. He fought SO hard to save Eos, literally going to the depths of hell & back, giving up his life, only to die in the end, and knowing that his efforts were for naught. Ifrit burst out of Taelpar Crag, carrying Eos…and lit a Pyre at the nearby Rock of Ravatogh in order to purify her and save the last bit of her light buried deep inside her heart. Finally Ifrit has found his way out of the realm of the dead, but before him still lie many obstacles. At the end of this room the player slides down a steep slope. A spotlight shines on the bearded statue who is holding a door shut with one hand and a platform with the other. We love you, man! At this point we believe Ifrit goes berserk and starts rampaging in the cavern. TLDR ; The Rock of Ravatogh is actually Eos's and Ifrit's corpses. What a stunning detail that so many people seem to miss! Burning her on the Pyre spread the star scourge into the air, but it was a necessary evil. Regardless, this is the last leg of Ifrit’s journey out of the Underworld. We as the players have been in this room before, but narratively this is now representing a different area. Then…suddenly in the path, we get one last glimpse of Ifrit. ----- cxiv. http://imgur.com/E74VkbZ. We’ve spent DAYS together playing FFXV, researching leads, brainstorming, & writing this all out to share with you guys. A RUBY BRACELET. Like no other gemstone in the world, Ruby is the perfect symbol for powerful feelings. We think that there could be a connection to the 4 Fiends within Pitioss, but we couldn’t conclusively be sure. There are holes in the ground, loosely stacked pillars, haphazardly placed stones… Solheim started to build this place, abandoned it, and later, Ifrit used it to build a sanctuary for his tale. Pitioss Ruins Bosses. Lore See also: Story within Pitioss Ruins Chapter 1: An Idea. We believe this is Ifrit embracing her & then quickly cutting her chains, freeing her. He mustâve cut open her heart and reached inside to retrieve the Crystal. A hand, jutting out of the wall. They want every trace of the original Eos to be erased, and if her bloodline can’t do it, then fuck the planet, enjoy your eternal night. http://imgur.com/lJLKOFp. http://imgur.com/7CgU5YF. Ifrit is the hero of this game! In an elaborately constructed argument that involves old-school Final Fantasy references, Greek mythology, and tragic Shakespearean pathos, perona77 proposes the idea that Ifrit was actually a good guy, not the nasty villain he appears to be in Final Fantasy XV. Pyreburner… He has burned a pyre. http://imgur.com/zzM71af. At the top of the elevator we find several items strewn across the floor. The cut scene for this is really odd…the door is blown off but it manages to stand up briefly and then falls down in an odd way….like a tree falling down. We are happy that it got a lot ⦠We think this symbolizes a Meteor hitting whatever has Ifrit imprisoned. Interestingly, hidden at the top of the door frame to enter the next room are some Marlboro Vines. We have all been as blind as Ignis up to this point. Of note inside the cage area we find a Blood sword in the corner, and a Garnet Bracelet literally inside of Ifrit’s hand. These tiles seem to represent the 4 Four Fiends of Chaos from FF!!! However, Reddit User /u/TurtleBees worded it best and several other readers commented that Eos was likely alive at this point. It’s clear that Ifrit is the architect from here on out. Based off evidence of the Prawn Antennae we can decipher what happened here. One related to the Pitioss Ruinsâ theory, that Iâm about to âsum upâ just in case someone doesnât know it. And all that remains are her fossilized wing, and his crystalized horns, still visible from atop The Rock of Ravatogh to this day. BUT…but…Perona…!! Marilith (the 2 headed snake), Lich (The boney face with a red hat that has souls flying to him), Kraken (aka Ultros with his 8 tentacles), & Tiamat (the white flower with 8 petals). Her picture in the Big Bang art, and her statue both depict her as having her eyes open. UPDATE 2/17: Prince Freakin' Noctis has read Pitioss Ruins: REVELATIONS! SUMMARY: We want to thank everyone who previously read and enjoyed our Pitioss Ruins: Revelations theory. This can be evidenced by the building materials ALL OVER this dungeon, represented through items like rusty bits, chrome bits, metal scraps, building stones….Ifrit had a specific reason for this location…but we will get to that at the end. http://imgur.com/P3362KR. From here on out, whenever the player hits a switch, it represents an action being taken. He was amused when I told him they should add more platformer dungeons to the game. Hopefully through future content, we'll get the true story of pitioss whether this theory is confirmed or not. It will be interesting to see what happens with Episode Gladio, if he truly does enter the Underworld through Taelpar Crag…then this would only further prove what we are writing here. It has turned the game as we knew it upside down. The play begins in the main hall of Pitioss Ruins. This explains the heavy use of symbolism throughout Pitioss Ruins. Ifrit unintentionally save the world with his act of pure love. Past the statue of Ifrit, the only path forward is random, twisted steel beams. When the player enters the room, seeing Doomtrain for the first time, there is a long perch with a chrome bit on it. Maybe nothing...maybe everything... MEGA UPDATE 2/26: We've just gone live with our newest post, EOS : REVELATIONS. How appropriate is Chapter 0 now?! One thing to keep in mind is that Tabata has said multiple times, even as recently as this week in an interview for Xbox magazine, that there IS a story being told in Pitioss for players to figure out. We strongly believe that the male twin is the one whose descendants would eventually become the Lucis Caelum family. However, the Pitioss Ruins theory goes beyond this and simply assumes at face value that if X happened with equivalent characters in the Greek myth, then the equivalent must be true in Final Fantasy XV. Itâs fantastic. That would be a huge taboo in the eyes of the other Astrals... http://imgur.com/B7Sosgw. ". Don’t worry fam, we got you. This is the realm of the dead, the point of no return. http://imgur.com/E74VkbZ, We are positive that while Ifrit originally enters the Underworld in Lestallum, he exits the Underworld somewhere in Taelpar Crag. This is why it can restore the Dawn. THANK YOU to reddit user /u/PenguinSunday for pointing out that in this final room as you land in the circle of lava and hit the switch to open the door to Doomtrain's room, the music changes from What Lies Within (normal dungeon music) to Disquiet (the music that played during Noctis's nightmare) after you hit the switch. The last thing the other Astrals would want to do is touch Star Scourge. Added a detail I had somehow managed to forget about the Pitioss theory. This skull contraption is a REPRESENTATION of Doomtrain. She was pregnant. Which leads us in to the fourth room. From this point on we only move up, Ifrit has started to make his way back. We realized that if the statues, puzzles, and events in Pitioss are symbolicâ¦then the items strewn about the dungeon and details on objects must be as well. Alternatively, it could represent an “Ah-Ha! This lines up with Tabata’s comments during the FEB 2nd ATR that a “certain” developer wanted to put a floating head of Ramuh in Pitioss. They resemble pillars you would see in a grand train station. This is why it can restore the Dawn. A jumpingpuzzle not even Satan him self would use to torture his subjects with." Such an amazing theory. FOREWARD: First off… a BIG THANK YOU to everyone who read & participated in our last thread, Pitioss Ruins; a tale of love & despair. http://imgur.com/AyNUDCq. Anytime the player sees a healing item, it represents a time Ifrit used it to heal himself. At the end of this room, before jumping through the last door, we pass through two small halls that highly resemble the exit terminal of a train station. Ifrit enters a large room with several doors. Visualize this hall room as a river that Ifrit has been sucked in to and must traverse to reach the Door to the Land of the Dead. AND if we take a look at Ifrit from the battle in Insomnia we can see that he is covered head to toe with jewelry adorned with red garnets…does this outright say that Ifrit is represented by this statue? This could be like a turnstyle at the entrance to a train station…, This next room is Doomtrain’s station in the Underworld. You can SEE the terror Ifrit must have felt while desperately trying to claw his way out of the Land of the Dead while clinging to his beloved as her life is quickly fading. Upon being defeated, Karlobos creates a whirlpool that sucks Ifrit into the river. The two pillars framing the exit, are unlike any other pillars seen in Pitioss. Let’s move on…we head through the now open door, and the music changes to dungeon music and a notice of officially entering Pitioss Ruins pops up…as if saying you weren't in it before. There’s a giant hole in the globe that you have to jump through to reach the center of the globe…all while dodging fiery spikes (could this represent lava?). http://imgur.com/wjnQ4DB, Ifrit is going berserk, trying desperately to find his way out. The crystal contains a small shred of the goodness and light that once was Eos. That’s why it plays during your last trek through Insomnia! http://kotaku.com/a-wild-theory-about-final-fantasy-xvs-secret-dungeon-1792490713, https://twitter.com/RayChase/status/832130388268969984, /r/FFXV/comments/5rwru8/pitioss_ruins_a_tale_of_love_despair/. We want to make note of this now because this pertains to the entirety of Pitioss. Listen to this. The first puzzle to progress further involves bouncing a giant ball off the cage. Her burning, crystalized heart was still that hot! Ok! “Taste again the chill wind of death”….So Shiva confirms in game that Ifrit has died before. For Final Fantasy XV on the PlayStation 4, a GameFAQs message board topic titled "Pitioss Ruins; REVELATIONS FFXV Theory. Ifrit then continued to oppose the other Astrals plans to have the Lucian line purify the Crystal. ]So, yesterday was THE day. It’s showing Ifrit’s long and very deep descent. Ifrit is the hero of this game! We realized that if the statues, puzzles, and events in Pitioss are symbolic…then the items strewn about the dungeon and details on objects must be as well. On the precipice there’s one final trial of a wall of lava on each side. They’re Astrals, Divine Beings, couldn’t they of purified the crystal themselves? Heâs artistic. There’s desperate scratch marks all over the wall, oozing star scourge. It has a hole in it…the same shape and size of the Dark Lucian Crystal. Include crossovers; Exclude crossovers; Show only crossovers; Completion Status. Discussion. UPDATE 3/11: Pitioss: Ruins theory partially CONFIRMED!! Only….it’s not a Crag yet. Itâs very different from anything else in Final Fantasy XV. Ifrit needs this place to pass the test of time, an actual train would be difficult to maintain. Pitioss Ruins; REVELATIONS. THANK YOU: HUGE shout out to Youtuber Final Fantasy Peasant, for making a video about our theory!! Square Enix had this planned from the start. It is Ifritâs masterpiece crafted to tell the tale of how he tried to save Eos, Goddess of the Dawn, by travelling into the Underworld to free her from her imprisonment. Original theory by husband & wife team, Perona77. No bosses inside the dungeon . Very interesting to see Matt & Ray discuss it. The player boards an elevator, as the player rides the elevator, you can notice that it is a very quick ascent. The last hallway before the player exits the ruins we find an excessive amount of healing items and the Black Hood. http://imgur.com/heCxGFo, This is a blind run towards the surface! Ifrit saved her just in time, before the last of her light was extinguished. Author of Blood, Sweat, and Pixels. A video response to the Pitioss Ruins: Revelations theory offering an alternative interpretation of the imagery and symbolism found in Pitioss. SO….the first Meteor is the one that is holding Titan down at the Disc of Cauthess. http://imgur.com/kruAgsG, Something to note here is that you find the Genji Gloves at her navel. Even more compelling here, however, is that they are symbolic of quick returns and a separated love and as such will be given to a lover about to embark on a long journey. Get. Make sure it is nighttime (if not, start a ⦠Ying & Yang. After the heroes defeat Karlobos, he creates a whirlpool that wrecks their ship. Taelpar Crag. Thanks, Filipe! Could Ifrit have been anticipating an encounter with Shiva, Ramuh, & Bahamut?? We slowly went through Pitioss and studied every item and what we know they mean. Or you could take it as that it is going down his throat, he’s eating it. Noctis even groans here. http://imgur.com/SUBh6ly, Ifrit isn’t in the Underworld yet, rather deep inside the planet Eos, approaching the Door to the Underworld. Hmm…who else acts like this? Only those who could pay the fare with coins placed under their tongues are granted passage. After Doomtrain’s room, you’ve moved past the Gates of the Underworld. It’s darkness and chaos. There are quite a lot of oracle ascension and rare coins in this room hmmm... http://imgur.com/MzNiBhD, After the first time the player has run through a compartment on Doomtrain and has continued along a path to enter the next compartment, there’s something odd in your way. Both families are key to bringing about the Dawn. He laid his beloved Eos down, lit the Pyre, and collapsed in death next to her, and while embracing her body, burned along with her. We see Ifrit in a cage. As to the Goddess figure, she would be the one to bless this human and/or their lineage with the ability to stop Ifrit's scheme from destroying humanity. It might not be what Hajime Tabata and crew actually intended, but it sure is brilliant. They say there’s a cave near the summit that offers the finest view in all of creation.” This is a sublte hint from square enix! "When I asked, Tabata shot down that one bonkers theory about Pitioss Ruinsâ story, adding that there are aspects of Final Fantasy XVâs background lore that will be explained in future downloadable content. The way to continue your path is to literally jump into the planet from the top, as if you’re falling into the planet, past lava, through the hole Ifrit made. This reminds us of something… http://imgur.com/4knAvLR, That isn't a cave, it's a crystallized heart. The Greeks invented stage play with the Greek Tragedies, and this game is heavy with Greek & Roman mythology. Pitioss is literally a Greek tragedy stage play set up by Ifrit himself to tell his epic tale to a future Lucian king & memorialize his beloved, Eos. selective, independent, canon divergent roleplay blog for noctis lucis caelum of ffxv, incorporating the pitioss ruins theory. Seriously though, screw the guy who decided to put a precision platforming dungeon into a game with such mushy, imprecise controls. http://imgur.com/kxyWkoZ. Itâs reminiscent of a Destiny raid in that it plays by different rules than anything else in the game, and it never quite explains itself. Not the Lucian Kings, not The Oracles, and certainly not the other Astrals! http://imgur.com/XqH6F6b, This is key as to WHY Eos was imprisoned and sentenced to the Underworld. As her corpse burned, the ash and smoke rose in the sky, releasing the star scourge throughout the planet. The second room, we are challenged by some spinning pillars. Ifrit is crafting spells with these items throughout his journey to help himself progress. ⦠Wow, they’re assholes. And boy, did we find something! We did want to make it clear that we are the original creators of this theory. [EDITED! The far end of the path is a dead end with a steep wall. http://imgur.com/7B4DRI5 Another interesting piece of evidence that the identity of this statue is Ifrit, is Ifrit's artwork from Final Fantasy Tactics: http://imgur.com/R8DVRdX. This and other points make more sense if Eos is alive here. In the first thread, everything was written as if one person was writing, but actually, we are a husband & wife who both love Final Fantasy. There's an elaborate Pitioss Ruins & Ifrit fan theory, but that's not really in our scope. This room represents the whirlpool, created by Karlobos, which Ifrit has been sucked into. There’s a spike wall that you can barely squeeze past. The figure in BB art has wings, and the Ifrit statue doesn’t! Red lighting can be used to convey several emotions….violence, anger, or passion. Itâs way too long and intricate to quote in full here, but hereâs perona77's summary: The story in Pitioss, as said in our last post is a tale told through symbolism. One last question remains… If all Ifrit wanted was to be with Eos, why not just die with her down in the Underworld? The story that follows next through symbolism & hints is the climax. In our original Pitioss: A Tale of Love & Despair post, several commenters pointed out holes in our theory that we kind of agreed with. The theory suggests that Eos isnât just the name of the world but a goddess who was another Astral. And to an extent, they’re right, it isn’t. as if he’s mirroring Ifrit when he uses the second meteor. He is skeletal, eyes sunken in. There is nothing in this room of chaos that looks like people from Solheim built. Their theory is the Pitioss Ruins were built by Ifrit and that the strange puzzles, statues, and architecture function as a means of telling his own tragic story. PITIOSS RUINS: A NEW CHALLENGER APPEARS. Compare pictures of his face from the first three Ifrit statues: http://imgur.com/lnlyxQo, Now take a close look at his current face vs the figure carrying Eos’s corpse in Amano’s Big Bang art: http://imgur.com/JLxTmOc. As many of you have already discovered, Final Fantasy XV has a secret dungeon called the Pitioss Ruins thatâs one of the best things in the game. Go read the whole thing. The spinning room symbolizes Ifrit’s despair at finding Eos in this state. Even in the battle at the citadel, Ifrit fights to the death to protect the last sliver of his Beloved. That will awake him (her) in the next morning. “A dead flame must burn no more”…Why is he a dead flame?? Don’t believe us? 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